Subscribe to The Realignment Substack: https://therealignment.substack.com/ Check out our Bookshop store: https://bookshop.org/shop/therealignment Steven Teles, Johns Hopkins University professor, senior fellow at the Niskanen Center, and author of Never Trump: The Revolt of the Conservative Elites, joins The Realignment to discuss how political moderates can win again and what’s next for Never Trumpers.